Sunday, October 8, 2023

Apple Pie with Guest Rosalie Spielman

MADDIE DAY here, delighted to welcome Rosalie Spielman to the Kitchen. 

"An apple pie without the cheese is like a kiss without the squeeze."


My Hometown Mysteries series features several military veteran characters, including a physically disabled veteran, a Vietnam-era WAC, and the main character of a female US Army retiree, who struggles with heavy issues as a result of her service. Therefore, I mentally prepared myself for questions from readers relating to veterans. Or moose, or Idaho. But of all the questions I expected people to ask about my Hometown Mystery series, I never would have expected the one I have gotten multiple times, through friends, on Facebook, and in person:


 What's with the cheese on the apple pie?

Welcome Home to Murder has a scene early on where Tessa, visiting her family, sits down for dinner—and dessert:

 Dad surveyed the table and announced it was "high time for pie." We all helped clear the table…and reset it with a warm apple pie, a tub of vanilla ice cream, and a block of cheddar cheese. A slice of cheddar cheese on my pie was my favorite, but I was in an ice cream mood tonight.

As you can see, out of 75,000 words, there are two lines that refer to cheese on pie, and they are right there next to each other. And that is what the most questions I get are about?

So, okay. Why cheese on pie? Well, that's how I was raised eating it. The savory-ness of a sharp cheddar with the warm sweetness of a pie…the buttery crust with the salt of the cheese? How can you say no? My pie-making people were from Oklahoma; their people from Switzerland. Apparently, that is no explanation though, as the practice supposedly goes back to 16th or 17th century in England, where serving a custard with (or in) a pie was normal. It's only a few short steps to substitute cheese.

 If you still think it sounds too weird (like my husband does), picture your last charcuterie board. Was there cheese? Was there fruit?

I rest my case.

My preference for putting a slice on top of the pie is a nice Tillamook cheddar or a sharp and savory Cabot from Vermont. My Grammy taught me how to make apple pie, but I've decided to experiment and do my regular crust for the bottom, and a cheddar cheese-filled crust for the top. That way, my pickier family members, who think cheese on apple pie is sacrilege, can just take off the top crust. And of course, I have to stick to brand and make a moose for the top. 😉

Apple Pie with Cheese

Ingredients 


Bottom crust:

1 ¼ cup AP (all purpose) flour

1t sugar

¼ t salt

½ stick unsalted butter (4T)

¼ cup shortening – I use Crisco sticks for easier measuring

3-5 T water

Top crust:

1 c AP flour

1/8 t salt

½ c cheddar cheese, shredded

½ stick unsalted butter

1 T shortening

½ t lemon juice

3-5 T water

 


In a large mixing bowl, combine flour, sugar, and salt. Add butter and shortening.

Combine by pinching with fingertips or pastry blender until fats are about hazelnut-sized. (I don't use a food processor for this as the bigger chunks is what gives you a flakey crust.) If you squeeze a handful, it should stick together. Then I add the water one T at a time. It shouldn't be wet, but just moistened enough to form a ball. Put the ball on plastic wrap and smush it down. My method is to wrap it loosely, then flatten it into a disc perhaps 5 inches wide, little less than an inch thick. (The wrap will then be tight.) Put into the fridge and chill for an hour.

 

While the discs are chillin' in the fridge, peel and cut five apples (I used Granny Smith), mix them with sugar and cinnamon, and set aside.

 



When the discs are sufficiently firm, I roll them out.

When you're rolling, you'll see big smears of butter. This is GOOD and makes your crust flakey! But if it makes holes or sticks to the surface, you can chill your dough more. And if the crust tears when you're putting it in the dish, just patch with other pieces of leftover dough.

 


Roll out the dough for the top crust. I used a cookie cutter to cut out a moose shape and set aside. Then I used a pizza cutter (regular knife works too) to make strips. Then lay the strips all in one direction over the whole pie, then, starting on one side, fold back every other strip. Place a strip perpendicular across the remaining strips, then lay the folded strips back down. Repeat by doing the same with the strips that had remained down. Repeat until pie is covered, set moose on top, cut off strips that hung over the edge, and crimp with a fork. 

 



Once the pie is assembled and your oven is ready, cover the crust edge with foil. After years of cutting strips and cursing the pie gods when they fell off, I learned this method: fold a piece of foil twice into a square and cut a quarter circle in the middle, like making a very boring snowflake. Unfold and lay over the pie. 😊 Life changing!

 

Bake on a lower rack,10 minutes at 425, then reduce heat to 350 and bake another 60-70  minutes, until juices are bubbling and top is golden. (Or in this case, golden like a high school Prom Queen from the ‘80s.)

Cool on rack for at least an hour.

Serve to husband without telling him there is cheddar cheese in the crust.




Readers: do you like cheese on apple pie, or have any other food traditions that seem odd to others?


US Army retiree Tessa Treslow and her Aunt Edna put their auto restoration business on hold to host an "American Pickers"-style TV show, hoping their trash might be treasure to fun their new business. But not only do the pickers come with cameras and likeable stars, but also a murderer… 

 

**Gemma Halliday Publishing is donating a portion of the presales of Murder Comes Home to a veterans' charity, the Disabled American Veterans, or DAV.

 


 



Rosalie Spielman is a mother, veteran, and retired military spouse. She was thrilled to discover that she could make other people laugh with her writing and finds joy in giving people a humorous escape from the real world. She writes for the multi-author Aloha Lagoon mystery series and her own Hometown Mystery series.

She currently lives in Maryland with her husband in a rapidly emptying nest. For more information on her books or to subscribe to her newsletter, follow her Facebook page (Rosalie Spielman author) or Instagram (Rosalie.Spielman). Rosalie strives to provide you a cozy escape...one page at a time.

 








40 comments:

  1. I've never had cheese or ice cream with apple pie. I'm not much of a eater of pies that have a top crust.

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    1. I suppose it depends on the type of pie if I like it with a top. Usually the fruit pies.

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  2. No idea which of my parents started it or if both were raised that way, by I also grew up with there being the choice of cheese melted on top of apple pie. My grandfather migrated to the U.S. from Hungary and my Dad was born in Oklahoma so one or both might contribute to that fact. I eat it all ways - cheese, ice cream or plain - but as I get older, I prefer my pie plain - no cheese and no ice cream. So, I for one wouldn't be asking you that question. :)

    Your My Hometown Mysteries series sounds absolutely amazing and I will be checking them all out, which means they will be added to my TBR list. As the daughter of a career Army father (serving 29 years during WWII, Korea and Vietnam), the characters and the storylines definitely grab my attention.

    Thank you for the recipe and the idea of putting cheese IN the crust!
    2clowns at arkansas dot net

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    1. Hi Kay! You are certainly welcome. I'm not sure there is enough cheese in the crust to satisfy me, so I'm probably going to stick to a nice slice on top. I wonder if Oklahoma is the key?

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  3. what is weird about cheddar cheese on apple pie?

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    1. Well, I don't think anything is! But a lot of people have apparently never heard of it.

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  4. I think that your pie with cheese sounds and must be delicious! I have not had it, but I always put a slice of cheese on top of my toast and jam! I will definitely try to make your pie with the cheddar cheese top crust. I am not so sure your moose will look like yours…mine will probably look like a drunken chicken 🐔

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    1. sorry...Not sure why I am "anonymous" today :-) Luis@ole.travel

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    2. Ooh, Luis, cheese and jam (or rather, a slice of goiabada/guava paste) is called Romeo e Julieta in Brazil - something you probably already know!

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    3. Thank you! My moose is done with a cookie cutter. I tried it as a decoration on a pumpkin pie one year and he drowned. lol (That's why I did a lattice underneath, plus apples are more lumpy than pumpkin and he was looking deformed.)

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    4. Thank you, Edith and Rosalie, for your replies! You are so right, Edith about Romeo e Julieta :-) I will try to find a moose cookie cutter, but it not, then I will improvise, and maybe it will add a humorous element to my pie 🥧

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  5. This looks delicious. Thanks for sharing with us today! Best of luck with your upcoming release.

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  6. Thanks for joining us, Rosalie! I love a crisp leaf of lettuce on my peanut butter sandwich, and always hold the jelly. I've never met anyone else who likes it that way, so I claim the Queen Unique prize. ;^)

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    1. Thank you for hosting me! I've never heard of lettuce with peanut butter, so you are Queen Unique. ;) It doesn't sound bad though, brings Thai food to mind.

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  7. I heard of this from a friend's grandfather in Tennessee, some time ago. Thanks for the reminder.
    -- Storyteller Mary

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  8. I don't just like apple pie with cheddar cheese, I LOVE apple pie with cheddar cheese. Thanks for stopping by the kitchen today, Rosalie.

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    1. Oh, Molly, we are kindred spirits! And thanks for having me!

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  9. I prefer ice cream on my pie, but have had and enjoyed cheddar cheese on apple pie. What's not to like, cheddar and slices of apples, delish! Will have to try the cheddar in pie crust, sounds yummy. Thanks!

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    1. You're welcome, Marcia! And thanks for stopping in! I hope you enjoy it if you try it!

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  10. I love cheese and apples. Yum. Your crustwork is gorgeous!

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  11. Yes, strong cheddar cheese was always served with apple pie when I was a kid!

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    1. Oddly, my sister doesn't remember this being a thing in our house. But then again, I'm not sure she ate pie. I love it!

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  12. Dad always had a slice of cheddar on his apple pie. I like it too. Its sharpness helps cut the sweetness of the filling.

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    1. I agree! It's a sweet and savory thing. <3 Thanks for stopping in!

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  13. We had apple pie (and pumpkin) for T'giving and Christmas dinners. You could be sure that the next morning my mother would have a slice of the apple pie with some sharp cheddar cheese for breakfast.

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  14. Hi Rosalie - I've never put a slice of cheese on my apple pie but my best friend (a chef) swears by it. I plan on trying it at Thanksgiving this year. Thanks for the recipe. aprilbluetx at yahoo dot com

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  15. My grandpa always had cheese on his apple pie. He was from Sweden and I thought maybe it was a Scandanavian thing. It's not for me though.

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  16. It might be, who knows? It's not for everyone - my husband refuses to try it. More for me!

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